{"id":949,"date":"2008-04-23T06:50:30","date_gmt":"2008-04-23T06:50:30","guid":{"rendered":"\/yorktownsquare\/2008\/04\/23\/hillary-clinton-apparently-clo\/"},"modified":"2015-02-04T18:08:35","modified_gmt":"2015-02-04T23:08:35","slug":"hillary-clinton-apparently-clo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/yorkblog.com\/yorktownsquare\/hillary-clinton-apparently-clo\/","title":{"rendered":"Hillary Clinton apparently closer to middle than Obama in minds of York County Dems"},"content":{"rendered":"

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\nHundreds crowded the intersection of Beaver and West Market streets to see Hillary Clinton the Saturday before the primary. Background posts: Why did JFK lose to Richard Nixon<\/a>, Historians, journalists benefit from work of their forebears<\/a> and People still remember Hillary Clinton’s first York visit<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n

What does Democrat Hillary Clinton’s win in York County primary voting say about county voters?
\nIf you believe the conclusions of York County researchers, one could contend that Clinton did a better job of seizing the middle in the minds of local voters… .<\/p>\n

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\"hillary1\"<\/a>Hillary Clinton at the microphone.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\nProfessors G.A. Mellander and Carl E. Hatch looked at presidential voting patterns from 1796 to 1972.
\nThey concluded:
\n1. Yorkers vote against presidential candidates who are inordinately idealistic and not practical.
\n2. Yorkers vote for presidential candidates who strike a happy medium between the extremes of too much laissez-faireism and too much federal intervention into local affairs.
\n“All of which explodes the myth that York County is a region of rock-ribbed conservatism and reactionaryism,” their study concludes. “On the contrary, voting statistics over the years show that York County has been a consistently moderate political unit.”
\nOf course, the study goes only through 1968, and the county has voted consistently Republican ever since. But the two times Democratic candidates have been the closest – Jimmy Carter in 1976 and Bill Clinton in 1996 – they were viewed as somewhat moderate candidates. (See chart below).
\nSo this is the view at 11:30 p.m. on election night: Relative newcomer Barack Obama might be viewed as overly idealistic. The better-known Clinton might have received props from the practical results – particularly in the handling of the economy – of her husband’s presidency.
\nHow either would do against moderate Republican John McCain in a still-heavily Republican York County is another post for another day.
\nThe following chart shows presidential voting since 1796.
\nThe professors point to numerous examples to match their model of moderate York County voting. Exhibit A would be 1964 when Barry Goldwater, viewed as an extreme Republican, was trounced by the less dogmatic Lyndon Johnson. (See the post Why did JFK lose to Richard Nixon<\/a> for other examples.)
\nThe popular vote in York County for president of the United States, 1796-2004.
\nDEMOCRATIC LINEAGE – REPUBLICAN LINEAGE
\n1796 \u0090 141 (Jefferson, Repub.) – 3,222 (Adams, Fed’list) –
\n1800 \u0090 No popular vote
\n1804 \u0090 942 (Jefferson, Repub.) – 60 (Pinckney,Fed’list)
\n1808 \u0090 1,810 (Jefferson, Repub.) – 167 (Pinckney,Fed’list)
\n1812 \u0090 2,090 (Madison, Jeff, Dem.) – 1,407 (Clinton, Fed’list)
\n1816 \u0090 980 (Monroe, Jeff, Dem.) – 318 (King, Fed’list)
\n1824 \u0090 846 (Jackson, Jeff, Dem.) – 328 (Adams, D-Rep.)
\n1828 \u0090 3,645 (Jackson, Dem) – 1,864 (Adams, Nat-Rep.)
\n1932 \u0090 3,152 (Jackson, Dem.) – 1,451 (Wirt, Anti-Mason)
\n1836 \u0090 2,756 (Van Buren, Dem.) – 2,005 (Harrison, Whig)
\n1840 \u0090 4,382 (Van Buren, Dem.) – 3,792 (Harrison, Whig)
\n1844 \u0090 5,071 (Polk, Dem.) – 4,237 (Clay, Whig)
\n1848 \u0090 5,151 (Cass, Dem.) – 4,838 (Taylor, Whig)
\n1852 \u0090 5,585 (Pierce, Dem.) – 4,700 (Scott, Whig)
\n1856 \u0090 6,876 (Buchanan, Dem.) – 4,301 (Fillmore, Amer.)
\n1860 \u0090 5,497 (Reading Ticket) – 5,128 (Lincoln, Repub.)
\n562 (Douglas, Dem.) –
\n574 (Bell, Const’l Union) –
\n1864 \u0090 7,875 (McClellan, Dem.) – 4,696 (Lincoln, Repub.)
\n1868 \u0090 9,094 (Seymour, Dem.) – 6,449 (Grant, Repub.)
\n1872 \u0090 6,753 (Greelely, Dem.) – 6,299 (Grant, Repub.)
\n1876 \u0090 10,400 (Tilden, Dem.) – 6,826 (Hayes, Repub.)
\n1880 \u0090 11,582 (Hancock, Dem.) – 7,870 (Garfield, Repub.)
\n1884 \u0090 11,561 (Cleveland, Dem.) – 7,949 (Blaine, Repub.)
\n1888 \u0090 11,526 (Cleveland, Dem.) – 8,251 (Harrison, Repub.)
\n1892 \u0090 10,946 (Cleveland, Dem.) – 7,561 (Harrison, Repub.)
\n1896 \u0090 12,009 (Bryan, Dem.) – 11,842 (McKinley, Repub.)
\n1900 \u0090 13,738 (Bryan, Dem.) – 12,155 (McKinley, Repub.)
\n1904 \u0090 12,979 (Parker, Dem.) – 14,953 (Roosevelt, Repub.)
\n1908 \u0090 15,173 (Bryan, Dem.) – 14,661 (Taft, Repub.)
\n1912 \u0090 15,105 (Wilson, Dem.) – 5,224 (Taft, Repub.)
\n– 4,592 (Roosevelt, Prog.)
\n1916 \u0090 15,851 (Wilson, Dem.) – 11,775 (Hughes, Repub.)
\n1920 \u0090 14,342 (Cox, Dem.) – 19,885 (Harding, Repub.)
\n1924 \u0090 15,603 (Davis, Dem.) – 22,964 (Coolidge, Repub.)
\n1928 \u0090 11,118 (Smith, Dem.) – 45,362 (Hoover, Repub.)
\n1932 \u0090 29,341 (Roosevelt, Dem.) – 25,123 (Hoover, Repub.)
\n1936 \u0090 45,171 (Roosevelt, Dem.) – 29,565 (Landon, Repub.)
\n1940 \u0090 39,507 (Roosevelt, Dem.) – 30,323 (Wilkie, Repub.)
\n1944 \u0090 35,954 (Roosevelt, Dem.) – 30,915 (Dewey, Repub.)
\n1948 \u0090 33,110 (Truman, Dem.) – 32,501 (Dewey, Repub.)
\n1952 \u0090 39,288 (Stevenson, Dem.) – 44,068 (Eisenhower, Repub.)
\n1956 \u0090 37,848 (Stevenson, Dem.) – 47,057 (Eisenhower, Repub.)
\n1960 \u0090 38,710 (Kennedy, Dem.) – 55,109 (Nixon, Repub.)
\n1964 \u0090 57,366 (Johnson, Dem.) – 32,846 (Goldwater, Repub.)
\n1968 \u0090 32,636 (Humphrey, Dem.) – 50,148 (Nixon, Repub.)
\n1972 \u0090 27,520 (McGovern, Dem.) – 63,606 (Nixon, Repub.)
\n1976 \u0090 41,281 (Carter, Dem.) – 56,912 (Ford, Repub.)
\n1980 \u0090 33,406 (Carter, Dem.) – 61,098 (Reagan, Repub.)
\n1984 \u0090 33,359 (Mondale, Dem.) – 75,020 (Reagan, Repub.)
\n1988 \u0090 37,691 (Dukakis, Dem.) – 72,408 (Bush, Repub.)
\n1992 \u0090 46,113 (Clinton, Dem.) – 60,130 (Bush, Repub.)
\n1996 \u0090 49,596 (Clinton, Dem.) – 65,188 (Dole, Repub.)
\n2000 \u0090 51,958 (Gore, Dem.) – 87,652 (Bush, Repub.)
\n2004 \u0090 63,701 (Kerry, Dem.) – 114,270 (Bush, Repub.)
\nSources: Wilkes University Election Statistics Project, Election Statistics: 1682-2006; G.A. Mellander and Carl E. Hatch, York County’s Presidential Elections. <\/em>
\nTo see additional primary night posts, see Tom Joyce’s Articles of Confabulation<\/a> and Mike Argento’s Mike’s Front Stoop<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\nHillary Clinton on the platform at Market and Beaver.<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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